Comments on: Arty with a Capital F and the Myth of Absinthe http://www.reactivereports.com/chemistry-blog/arty-with-a-capital-f-and-the-myth-of-absinthe.html Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:08:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: David Bradley http://www.reactivereports.com/chemistry-blog/arty-with-a-capital-f-and-the-myth-of-absinthe.html/comment-page-1#comment-699 David Bradley Wed, 19 May 2010 07:11:13 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/chemistry-news/?p=82#comment-699 @Edgardo The RSS feed works perfectly well in Chrome, please do try again. Please add http://www.reactivereports.com/feed @Edgardo The RSS feed works perfectly well in Chrome, please do try again. Please add http://www.reactivereports.com/feed

]]> By: Edgardo Schuyler http://www.reactivereports.com/chemistry-blog/arty-with-a-capital-f-and-the-myth-of-absinthe.html/comment-page-1#comment-698 Edgardo Schuyler Tue, 18 May 2010 21:16:47 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/chemistry-news/?p=82#comment-698 I just tried to grab an feed for the RSS to your blogsite but it is not properly showing up in Google Chrome. Any ideas? I just tried to grab an feed for the RSS to your blogsite but it is not properly showing up in Google Chrome. Any ideas?

]]> By: David Bradley http://www.reactivereports.com/chemistry-blog/arty-with-a-capital-f-and-the-myth-of-absinthe.html/comment-page-1#comment-345 David Bradley Fri, 23 May 2008 07:18:33 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/chemistry-news/?p=82#comment-345 Nice one Rob, I'd love to give it a try... db Nice one Rob, I’d love to give it a try…

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]]> By: Rob Bowen http://www.reactivereports.com/chemistry-blog/arty-with-a-capital-f-and-the-myth-of-absinthe.html/comment-page-1#comment-344 Rob Bowen Thu, 22 May 2008 17:58:13 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/chemistry-news/?p=82#comment-344 An addendum to my comment about wormwood in beer- a recent batch of strong ale with less wormwood, more hops has aged out and is quite good. I'll have to try some another batch sometime. If I can get the aphids off my wormwood. An addendum to my comment about wormwood in beer- a recent batch of strong ale with less wormwood, more hops has aged out and is quite good. I’ll have to try some another batch sometime. If I can get the aphids off my wormwood.

]]> By: Art Historian http://www.reactivereports.com/chemistry-blog/arty-with-a-capital-f-and-the-myth-of-absinthe.html/comment-page-1#comment-343 Art Historian Thu, 15 May 2008 12:23:29 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/chemistry-news/?p=82#comment-343 Perhaps a bit of research into the art history that is claimed to be the background for this erudite analysis would apply a more "scientific" result in the assessment of absinthe's relationship to 19th century artists' application of its use in their work. Alcohol was most certainly the effective progenitor of relief from stress, but the artists of whom you speak were consumed with creative powers that did not seek chemical enhancement. Nor did these artists find anatomical alterations to their hearing mechanisms related to their choices of thirst quenching medicinals. Perhaps a bit of research into the art history that is claimed to be the background for this erudite analysis would apply a more “scientific” result in the assessment of absinthe’s relationship to 19th century artists’ application of its use in their work. Alcohol was most certainly the effective progenitor of relief from stress, but the artists of whom you speak were consumed with creative powers that did not seek chemical enhancement. Nor did these artists find anatomical alterations to their hearing mechanisms related to their choices of thirst quenching medicinals.

]]> By: David Bradley http://www.reactivereports.com/chemistry-blog/arty-with-a-capital-f-and-the-myth-of-absinthe.html/comment-page-1#comment-342 David Bradley Thu, 15 May 2008 08:40:02 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/chemistry-news/?p=82#comment-342 Thanks for the reference Vladimir, very useful. db Thanks for the reference Vladimir, very useful.

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]]> By: Vladimir Rozhanets http://www.reactivereports.com/chemistry-blog/arty-with-a-capital-f-and-the-myth-of-absinthe.html/comment-page-1#comment-341 Vladimir Rozhanets Thu, 15 May 2008 07:54:13 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/chemistry-news/?p=82#comment-341 Narcology (Russian). – 2003. - ?9. – ?. 51-56. Wormwood (Artemisia sp.): a component of the drugs, supplements available for the addiction and strong beverages. ROZHANETS V.V. cand.biol sci., senior researcher of toxicological lab. of National Research Center on Addiction, Ministry of Health, Russian Federation, Moscow Review. Data about different means for usage of some Aremisia species in traditional and current medicine with special references to actions available for the drugs, food additives (supplements) in the field of addiction, and absinthe production are presented. Different Aremisia compounds possess hepatoprotective, holagogic, antiulcer, hypoglycaemic and neurotropic activities. It is possible, that some Aremisia preparations are useful for the treatment of alcohol hepatitis and pancreatitis. Now it is evident, that neither thujone nor other Artemisia neurotropic compounds are not responsible for special addictional absinthe effect. At the same time it should be pointed, that the "old absinthe" as a product of special distillation of a complex medicinal and fragrance herbs extract may revealed some unusual addictive actions in the case of chronic ingestion of such beverages. Key words: Artemisia, wormwood, monoterpenes, sesquiterpenes, sesquiterpenoids, volatile chemicals, flavonoids, coumarins. Hepatoprotective, holagogic, antiulcer, hypoglycaemic antipancreatitic and neurotropic activities. Thujone, artemisinin, absinthe. (Review, 86 ref.) Narcology (Russian). – 2003. – ?9. – ?. 51-56.

Wormwood (Artemisia sp.):
a component of the drugs, supplements available for the addiction and strong beverages.

ROZHANETS V.V. cand.biol sci., senior researcher of toxicological lab. of National Research Center on Addiction, Ministry of Health, Russian Federation, Moscow

Review. Data about different means for usage of some Aremisia species in traditional and current medicine with special references to actions available for the drugs, food additives (supplements) in the field of addiction, and absinthe production are presented. Different Aremisia compounds possess hepatoprotective, holagogic, antiulcer, hypoglycaemic and neurotropic activities. It is possible, that some Aremisia preparations are useful for the treatment of alcohol hepatitis and pancreatitis. Now it is evident, that neither thujone nor other Artemisia neurotropic compounds are not responsible for special addictional absinthe effect. At the same time it should be pointed, that the “old absinthe” as a product of special distillation of a complex medicinal and fragrance herbs extract may revealed some unusual addictive actions in the case of chronic ingestion of such beverages.

Key words: Artemisia, wormwood, monoterpenes, sesquiterpenes, sesquiterpenoids, volatile chemicals, flavonoids, coumarins. Hepatoprotective, holagogic, antiulcer, hypoglycaemic antipancreatitic and neurotropic activities. Thujone, artemisinin, absinthe.
(Review, 86 ref.)

]]> By: David Bradley http://www.reactivereports.com/chemistry-blog/arty-with-a-capital-f-and-the-myth-of-absinthe.html/comment-page-1#comment-340 David Bradley Thu, 15 May 2008 07:34:19 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/chemistry-news/?p=82#comment-340 Thanks for the comment Clifford, yes the point about the 70% is well taken, most people would drink it with food or diluted in some way, but I do know people who've tried it neat too and a few slugs of that in the stomach is going to get through the gut wall very quickly nevertheless. As to bad and weird dreams, don't you find you have those if you drink a lot of beer/wine/spirits in one assault? I know I do, I think it's fairly well known that an alcoholic stupor can lead to nightmares. Of course, nightmares are hallucinations, the difference is that you're not seeing them while you're awake. Finally, the researchers tested different contemporary brands from that period. I don't believe they analysed modern absinthe, but it would certainly be illegal to add anything to that today that was a known psychotrope. db Thanks for the comment Clifford, yes the point about the 70% is well taken, most people would drink it with food or diluted in some way, but I do know people who’ve tried it neat too and a few slugs of that in the stomach is going to get through the gut wall very quickly nevertheless.

As to bad and weird dreams, don’t you find you have those if you drink a lot of beer/wine/spirits in one assault? I know I do, I think it’s fairly well known that an alcoholic stupor can lead to nightmares. Of course, nightmares are hallucinations, the difference is that you’re not seeing them while you’re awake.

Finally, the researchers tested different contemporary brands from that period. I don’t believe they analysed modern absinthe, but it would certainly be illegal to add anything to that today that was a known psychotrope.

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]]> By: Clifford Dorset http://www.reactivereports.com/chemistry-blog/arty-with-a-capital-f-and-the-myth-of-absinthe.html/comment-page-1#comment-339 Clifford Dorset Thu, 15 May 2008 06:50:47 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/chemistry-news/?p=82#comment-339 To say that 'it must be the 70% ethanol' is very disingenuous. When I've drunk it, it was watered, and also it went into a gut full of food and other drink. As a scientist I believe I'm quite objective, but my experiences of definitely odd dreams make me wonder about this report. OK, hardly a psychedelic trip, but certainly interesting. Maybe different brands have different components? To say that ‘it must be the 70% ethanol’ is very disingenuous. When I’ve drunk it, it was watered, and also it went into a gut full of food and other drink. As a scientist I believe I’m quite objective, but my experiences of definitely odd dreams make me wonder about this report. OK, hardly a psychedelic trip, but certainly interesting. Maybe different brands have different components?

]]> By: ThubJub http://www.reactivereports.com/chemistry-blog/arty-with-a-capital-f-and-the-myth-of-absinthe.html/comment-page-1#comment-338 ThubJub Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:02:26 +0000 http://www.chemspider.com/chemistry-news/?p=82#comment-338 Dude, every time I discover a new way to get high, some researcher has to go and prove it's not gonna work. Way to go, science. Dude, every time I discover a new way to get high, some researcher has to go and prove it’s not gonna work. Way to go, science.

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